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HINDRAF – Significant events PDF Print E-mail
Written by zen   
Thursday, 05 June 2008 01:33
The Hindu Rights Action Force or in short HINDRAF is a Malaysian group made up from 30 Hindu Non-Governmental organizations that are committed to the preservation of the Hindu community rights and heritage.

Late last year, there has been some arrests of a few prominent HINDRAF members after the very much spoken about rally in November, the members were charged with sedition which were latest dismissed. Ever since then, 5 members have been detained without trial under the ISA (Internal Security Act).

Some of the major events that involved the HINDRAF like in October 2007 when four Group fellows and human rights members M Manoharan, P. Uthayakumar, P. Waytha Moorthy and S.Ganapathi Rao, K.Ulaganathan were arrested. They were detained for having been responsible for the demonstration which resulted in a Hindu Shrine being destroyed but was released after charges against them did not have sufficient evidence.

The HINDRAF also hold weekend forums which are peaceful. The objectives of the forums are to spread the awareness of the Hindu human rights but one of the recent forums were disrupted by the police and HINDRAF has since appealed to the Inspector General of the Royal Malaysian Police to continue these forums.

In 23 November 2007, three members of the HINDRAF was arrested. They are P. Uthayakumar, Waytha Moorthy, and V.S. Ganapathi Rao. They were charged under the Sedition Act for inciting racial hatred. However, there has been subsequent releases and arrests as the courts are unable to prove the case. The three members were eventually released.

Anther notable event took place when HINDRAF held a march towards the British High Commission. A class action on behalf of Malaysian Indians sued the UK Government for US$4trillion. The charge was for bringing in Indians into Malaya before independence as indentured laborers thereby “exploiting them for 150 years” with which the UK Government had failed to protect the rights of the minority Indians in the Federal Constitution when they granted independence to Malaya.

While they could not afford the required legal fee, they circulated a petition consisting of 100,000 signatures for Queen Elizabeth to appoint a Queen's counsel on their behalf.

The petition was to be submitted to the British High Commission on 25 th November 2007 but permission was denied by the Malaysian Police. The police force then set up road-blocks all over the Klang Valley which leads to the rally while examining motorists entering the city in hope to catch any potential troublemakers while advising the public at large not to join the rally.

In fact, the road-blocks had started a few days before the scheduled rally, causing great difficulties and traffic jams for motorists. During the rally, riot police was deployed which then used water cannon and teargas to disrupt the march. The peaceful protest, which saw an estimated 20,000 people held life sized portraits of Mahatma Gandhi and Queen Elizabeth as symbol of peace were generally unheeded by the riot police on standby who then used the anti-riot measures and subsequently arresting 136 people.

The rally and clashes caused some injuries but the Hindu temple in Batu Caves was untouched although there was some damages on the property. HINDRAF then reported that they have already sent the petition to the British High Commission by fax, an issue denied by the High Commission.

From the Government's standpoint, the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi issued a warning that if absolutely needed, the Internal Security Act will be used where one can be detained without trial. He also mentioned that he will listen to everyone whether or not what they have say is pleasant or not.

Due to the lack of hard evidence, the HINDRAF leaders were acquitted on 11 th December 2007, but one month later, HINDRAF leaders were detained under the ISA for 2 years with claims that there is a link with certain international terrorist organizations. This was seen as a form of shutting the leaders up.

There has been various other arrests under the Emergency Act and the ISA which was widely compared to the Operasi Lalang that took place in 1987. At this time, the governmental MIC party escalated their efforts to win some trust from the HINDRAF movement but failed miserably.

The detention of the leaders was met with much criticism from both local and international parties. Some foreign media attacked the way the government was confronting the issue claiming that they were poor in doing so. Opposition parties like the DAP vowed to fight the injustice while some NGOs became more vocal in questioning democracy from various viewpoints. The struggle was seen as noble to many and began spreading to other countries including the US, UK, Canada and Australia. Throughout the country, Hindu Temples had candlelight vigils seek to protest the detention, something that was widely opposed by the MIC President, Datuk Seri S Samy Vellu.

The HINDRAF then ran The Rose to the PM campaign where Vwaishnavi Wathya Moorthy, aged 5 will present a rose to the Prime Minister as a symbol of love and compassion. The scheduled event was 16 th February but the Malaysian Lower House was dissolved 3 days before that for the Federal Elections.

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soul rebel
July 21, 2008
219.93.92.161
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...and justice for all.

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soul rebel
July 21, 2008
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....democritic or democracy????????????? smilies/grin.gif

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RajaFarok
July 23, 2008
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Hello All HINDRAF members, Malysia is a Peacefull country. Dr Mahathir build Malaysia to a Modern and advance country already..... But u all very lucky because of that stupid PM Dolah..... if i'm become Prime Minister, i ' ll send u all back to your India country.... So you all can make demonstration everyday at your Origenal Country there. Down there also u all cannot speak Tamil, you have to speak in Hindi Language.. So behave yourself as a Malaysian not as a Hindus ........ HINDRAF............

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soul rebel
July 23, 2008
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Helo bro RF, URBAN thinkinglah sikit instead of being "pro's". Jangan kasi hantam sajalah. Kalo dia mau buat street demo, very good & peaceful..bravo . But kalo org lain buat dia cakap permit tak adalah, terrorislah, anti-govlah...public nuisancelah...macam- macam... damages...& damaged. Objective overruled. LOVE IS IN THE AIR!!

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soul rebel
July 24, 2008
219.93.92.161
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Until the philosophy which hold one race
Superior and another inferior
Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned
Everywhere is war, me say war

That until there are no longer first class
And second class citizens of any nation
Until the colour of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than
the colour of his eyes
Me say war

That until the basic human rights are equally
Guaranteed to all, without regard to race
Dis a war

That until that day
The dream of lasting peace, world citizenship
Rule of international morality
Will remain in but a fleeting illusion
To be persued, but never attained

Good over evil, good over evil, good over evil
Good over evil, good over evil, good over evil

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soul rebel
July 25, 2008
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ONE LOVE PEOPLE! smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif

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soul rebel
July 25, 2008
219.93.92.161
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MAKKAL SAKTI FOREVER!

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shan
August 02, 2008
60.54.36.239
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RajaFarok.......
U are a really smart ass. isnt it.U fellows try to convert the east malaysians to muslims from christianity by force.When that din't succeed u try to bring muslim immigrants from neighbouring countries to change the demograpic pattern.THIS IS THE BEST APERTHIED SYSTEM IN THE WORLD.MAHATHIR should take credit for this....

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mawi...........
August 02, 2008
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woi....Raja f**k,
Talk as malaysian,dont be racist asehole,u mother f**ker.

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f**king farok
August 05, 2008
219.93.152.23
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attention to Raja Farok!

ur mother f**ker!mind ur f**king words,otherwise i will kick ur balls.This is multiracial country,Anyway offcourse we are from india and have arrived here about 150 years ago but ur grand parents might came from indonesia about 50-60 years ago.you decide who cam first to this country?and who might be origin here?f**k you !you get lost to indon .Your malays are wealthy bcause of our hindus n chinese by giving u all the special rights by the government.We have no objection if u all ask us to get back to India,but imagine if we get back to india ,ur malays will become worst bcause u all dont know how to use your own brains which given by god.Indian and chinese have contribute the roads n also the chinese have done their bussiness to mprove malaysian economy .What u all have done so far?

we infact asks for our rights in this country bcause our community have been marganilised!what if we does it to you by not offering places in universities,govenment jobs and didnt given u the loans to do bussiness and also education.

think before you talk.

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RAEKWON
August 05, 2008
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GROW UP YOU RAJA MOTHER FUKIN FARUK..

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big nizam
August 05, 2008
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To all Indians and Chinese.... If you fill up any Gov forms, in the column "Bangsa" what do you write? Just asking. What does "Bangsa" really mean? What is your "lagu keBANGSAan"?

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big nizam
August 05, 2008
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What is MARA, why is it only for the .........? As far as i know MARA means Majlis Amanah RAKYAT. Who is the RAKYAT here and who is not?

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yuvann.....
August 06, 2008
124.13.75.232
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relax beb!!!

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g8 vodka
August 06, 2008
219.93.152.23
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I will definately write as bumiputera in the gov forms if i required too,but however the situation is not allowed in this mutiracial ethnic.Bangsa is the caste system ,where the rights is given according to community n which created by the corrupted government.Anyway you should not ask us about the national anthem because its created by the malaysian constituency and was not created by the ethnic chinese and indians.
anyway its a very good question that you has asked us,Firstly the origin rakyat of Malaysia is Orang Asli and take not it is not malays from Indonesia,Chinese from China and also Indians from India .In some sequences the people of sabah and Sarawak also can be said as origins as its joined the federation of malaysia.

base on the facts,we came here as migrants,For an example Indians and Chinese came here about 150 -200 years ago. Indonesian came here about 50 years ago as migrants and which welcomed by the government and given them the Bumiputera status as their looks is same as ethnic origins here.Anyway generally the Bumiputra is a Sanskrit word which means(Bhumi=earth,putra=son) and can be said as the son of soil.

The special Rights of malays was implemented by Tuanku Abdul Rahman by agreeing to grant citizenship for the Chinese and Indian communities and the time limit was given to Malay special rights was 15 years starting from the date of merdeka day.The reason why the special rights was given to malay communities was because the malays was very poor compare to other communities at that time.However the malaysian government continues the malay special rights under New economic policy (NEP) because of the Racial riot on 13th may 1969.The new economic policy was introduced by Tun Abdul Razak,the 2nd premier of malaysia in 1971 and based on the agreement it has allready officially ended in 1990.

my question is

why the government continued the NEP eventhogh its ended?

to all malays is this NEP rights is fo all malays or only for the UMNO members who is in the positions?

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sslian
August 07, 2008
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Raja Faruk or raja f**k is still an young ass so he doesnt really know what is going on, yes, Mahatir has made malaysia a well known country before he leaves but also he has done alot of wrong things for all malaysian.
I still remember when I was in UK, no one knows where is malaysia in 70's but only singapore. They once say that malaysian people stay up the trees.

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Bernamakan
August 07, 2008
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Hallo Raja Beruk, eh puki mak engkau...tell me what you malays own originaly here in Malaysia?...Zero la brader...from food to language, clothes, culture and everything you borrow from others. Abih nak cakap macam terer....the only thing you created to be proud with is ...raping your own blood born daughter...so the next time you wana talk about others, use your rotten brain first.

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HussienLempoyan
August 07, 2008
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Whatever,

All Malaysian Indian must understand and accept the fact, that all of u accepted by Malay as a citizen.

So, if you like to be a citizen, please hormat orang rumah...
But, if you don't like, you all got a big land and go back....no big matter...No one will stop you...

Jangan besar kepala sudahlah....

This is not racist, but you all do not understand of you as yourself and not thank to your god....

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HussienLempoyan
August 07, 2008
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Dear All Hindraf,

If u think the Malay and Malaysia get economy benefits from Indian, i think better you go back to your own land and make your land richer.

Seriously, without Indian Hindraf, Malays and Malaysians have no problem at all. Please go back laaa....please....

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HussienLempoyan
August 07, 2008
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Oh, sebelum terlupa,

Without Indian Hindraf, Malays and Malaysian have no problem at all

and one more thing.....

With Indian Hindraf, Malays and Malaysia have a big problem while you are here....!!

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Bernamakan
August 07, 2008
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HussienLempoyan

Tererr...engkau berhujah no...clap ..clap ...clap..clap...where were u all the while, hutan?

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HussienLempoyan
August 08, 2008
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Hutan pun hutanlah.....

asalkan aku bersyukur dalam hutan yg aku tinggal...

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shan
August 09, 2008
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HUssient if u throw shit on others it will come back to u....Others can also ask u to go back of course to indonesia

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g 8 vodka
August 09, 2008
219.93.152.23
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Attention To Hussien Lempoyan:

>by talking rubbish,there in no point!i think that u have to read the true history of malaysia.

>is this country belongs to ur community?are u asli?

>if you are not,u just f**k off to indonesia because thats ur mother f**king country.Dont talk cock.

>imagine that if our indian didnt appear in malaysia during the british rulling term,i dont think that ,there will be a road system in malaysia,maybe it might be 1 wonderful system which is jungle system .i think u guys might tumbuk belacan and stay in forest by eating that still without developing this country.

Sure,If it is required for us to go back india ,we will goback to india otherwise we will apply refugee status in uk,canada,australia and new zealand and i dont thing so we will stay in f**king racist country n facing the people who are talking cock like u.

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HussienLempoyan
August 09, 2008
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Dear my Devil g 8 vodka,

Yes, I'm Asli. So what?? Because i'm Asli, i want u to go back immediately. Can do it or not?

now u angry huh...!!!? U go lah to others country and please find any Tamil school there. Is there easy to find like in this Malay country?

The only land Hindraf can leave is only India. That one also i not sure, maybe some of high kasta Indian don't recognize Hindraf....pity some more.

Why u want to say this country is racist? Basically, Hindraf is a racist NGO. Hindraf try to create dissatisfactions among Malaysian Indian. And u must remember, u think all Malaysian Indian agree with Hindraf? I bet u, not all and not even majority.

What can i say here, Hindraf perasan jer lebih....U think u are what????U are Tamil hero or Hindustan hero...shame on u....and, u think u are P.Diddy or Janet Jackson? Your berlagak are more than everything.

Please, Malay never angry to Indian community like this before. But, we also don't want other races to take advantage.

Currently, Hindraf work hand-in-hand with PKR. PKR get support from DAP and PAS because their objective is very simple, they want this current govt collapse.

If they win, they will ask whether they can work together or not?? For sure, PAS can not work with DAP....and then, they start to find new way and PKR will be left alone. Hindraft umbrellared by PKR. PKR can not go alone than BN will win back.

What will happen to Hidraf??? Then they will start pusing....what Hindraf will pusing i don't no lah.....however, they will still pusing.

Conclusion, Hindraf cheat Malaysian Indian with their Alagapas dreams.....


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HussienLempoyan
August 09, 2008
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Dear my Devil g 8 vodka,

Forgotten, u said u want to apply as refugees in country like uk, canada, australia and new zealand right?????

Please proceed.

U all akan dilayan sehina-hinanya di sana nanti until your Tamil language pun lenyap. However, u all kan jenis perasan, u all still want to proud because u can live with white people.

Why u don't want to go back to India....??? They don't recognize u huh....

Orang dah bagi chance duduk, duduk lah diam-diam.

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Allah
August 09, 2008
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Saya sudah cakap banyak kali..tak mau cakap ini macam Orang Islam...

Lagi tak mau dengar..

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azuan....
August 09, 2008
124.13.75.234
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sdr HussienLempoyan....
SABARR...kesabaran tu separuh daripada aman.....

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vodka te g8
August 09, 2008
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Attention to Hussein Lempoyan.
ha ha ha,better you tell other indians in malaysia,you no need to tell me that because i am no more in malaysia.i am in one of the country that u have mentioned above .Anywa y who want ur bladdy chance to stay in this country,ha ha ha,eventhog there is no tamil school in other countries in nz ,australia but the freedom is given fully to follow up their own religion and they have all the rights to learn how to speak and write in their own language.They are giving everything base on human rights.yes i am proud because i am living in englishcountry and not like cows n buffaloes like u all who are sucking the cocks and involving in sodomy cases,

Anyway i am not relating all malays as i mentioned above because i know the malay brothers and sisters is also a good people and the way i mentioned sodomy cases,cow and buffaloes its only related to UMNO and BN.
Sure i will go back to India as i have property there ,anyway whether i am going to india or uk,australia or newzealand its nothing to do with you because thats non of ur f**king bussiness.PKR get support because of people and not because of hindraf,they have brains instead of shit to think twice before they vote n have given pakatan rakyat the 5 states, the white people didnt even insult us also,have you seen that they insult us in their own country ,have you been there to see how they insult us?if u didnt even visited the english country ,ithink that better u go and visit that particular country b4re talking cocks overhere.THe people who insult other communities and even their own communities is UMNO and BN Dogs,How ever i should not include them with dogs bcasuse its great insult to dogs community in all parts of the world.

Anyway sorry to say this ,its up to you to support BN and UMNO.But even allah also will not like it bcase ur supporting negative forces .

anyway i just giving my comments bcause everyone have rights to give the comment.

why dont u ask ur BN to chase all indians out of this country ?If u are genuine about this then ask the government to chase all indians out and stop talking cock over here.

Anyway sorry to all my malay brothers,bcause i know some of words may hurt all of you but i have no other choice because this fellows are creating disharmony in malaysia by giving stupid comments,anyway i am not racist and i just giving my comment to protect my own community,i also know about al quran because i am reading it to know abt the islamic culture and traditions.Even in Islam,there is no such a thing to insult other communities and prophet muhammad has say ,we as muslims have no rights to insult other communities and its a big sin than ever if we does it as muslim.Eventhogh i am hindu i have rights to read and know abt all the cultures .

anyway i know i have done some by getting too emotional because of Hussein Lempoyan and raja farok.

To all muslim brothers and sisters,Ask this Hussein Lempoyan and Raja Farok to read al quran to overcome their sin.anyway it is nothing related to me whether they are reading their own holy book or not.but its for their own good .

Finally to Hussein lempoyan,As you are a muslim,may allah bless you!

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vodka te g8
August 09, 2008
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To all malay brothers and sisters,sorry if i have hurt all of u by using the words which i not supposed to use in my comment.

my intend is not to create racial dissatisfaction n insult other races but i cant understand this bastards such as hussein lempoyan by insulting other races and the words he used in the comment make me reacts faster to make comments by not thinking of you all.
Anyway i think you guys will understand by what i am trying to say ,as u guys read all my comments as well as his comment above.

His intention is negative n he should not used the word by asking all hindus to go back n who he is to ask all indians to go back,is he is malaysian king,prime minister of malaysia?who the hell he is?he have no rights to use this word in this comments.

To all Malaysian Malays ,Chinese and indians,you all only can make malaysia in development and famous in term of economy,education and also in all aspects by being united each and other.



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vodka te g8
August 09, 2008
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Hussein Lempoyan ,why i should get angry with you n who ar u ?anyway may allah bless you for all your comments,if you are right in all ur comments that you have given then i will get punished from my god based on my believe ,If i am right ,then Allah will punish you when u rest in peace.

No comments ,but try to respect other communities as well if u want to be blessed by allah based on your muslim faith.

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vodka te g8
August 09, 2008
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to Hussein lempoyan,sorry for the word which i have used to you such as f**k,which i not supposed to use,i am sorry for that word too.

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vodka te g8
August 10, 2008
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Hussein Lempoyan!yes i am hindustan and tamil hero!so what?i didnt even feel ashamed because i am fighting for my own community and all communities in term of justice .did i said that to u regarding i am feel ashamed b4re?nope rite,then why are you trying to act smart?yes there is majority support for hindraf if u ask all indians whom are in makkal sakhti and the normal indian community who are not in MIC.The MIC is a dogs for BN and UMNO.what is the point by asking the MIC monkeys regarding the hindu community while the mic has lost their respects from their own community .Use a lil bit of common sense.i just ask sorry bcause i used bad words and not by stopping my debate here.

In ur point of view The PKR will loose if its stay single without dap and pas rite. anyway its wrong ,the PKR will allways win and after this the BN will allways loose because the people has lost trust with UMNO/BN corruption and sodomy govrnment .

I think you are the better person to contest in Permatang Pauh as BN candidate.why not you defeat anwar in permatang pauh and become the member of parliament there .i think u will win 100 percentage over there as you have trust in BN.i think the BN will even win for 10-100 generation if you become the member of parliament there .

I am also thinking that you are the right choice to become malaysian prime minister in future ,then why not you take over the responsibilities from AAB /Pak Lah.i think you should contest with anwar to become prime minister ,sure 100 % u will win.

Its better for malaysia in future .
hahaha .

you are funny anyway, i think i have given 4 to 5 comments for today,i think its enough.anyway its interesting by giving comment and argue with u.

its allready night here in nz .

good night and stay cool.dont be hot tempered because ur bp will be high and u have to take medical treatment from GP.

god bless u !hope u will bcome prime minister and chase all indian s out of this country .

ha ha ha.

anyway my final advise for u today is dont be racist ,think fair ly for all races in the country and respect each other .If possible try to respect and explain the problems to other communities and stay united .Dont give rubbish comment by asking all indians to get lost from this country.if u are asking the indians tto get lost from this country its showing your cowardness towards your nation and also other communities as well.If you are genuine ,then try to compete ur daily life with ethnic indians and chinese and proof that your community is better compare to other communities in malaysia.

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yuvan
August 10, 2008
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Bravo.... Vodko te g8,
Well done brother,May God Bless You.
Regards.

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TINAKARAN KANESAN
August 10, 2008
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HINDRAF LONG LIVE.

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HussienLempoyan
August 11, 2008
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Dear Vodka te g8,

Thanks for ur favorable reply. I accept your apology and i forgive u too.

Emotionally, i think u misunderstood what I'm saying too you. Basically, my final target is Hindraf where there are Malaysian Indian. (I've never see any Chinese Hindu involve in rally, if i not mistaken)......

I'm not targeting to all Malaysian Indian. My life is so beautiful with all my non-bumi such as Chinese, Baba/Nyonya, Indian, Chin-dian, Gragor, and many more and i can says that they are my best friend after my family. Because i grow with them since my 7-8 year-old time. Sometimes, i help them more than my family, and they also help me more than they help their family.We are very-very close.

For what reasons i should be a racist man....???

I know u must support your community. But for me u must support them accordingly. I really can't understand their objective. Out of sudden, they come with very popular ideology and attack our current govt like they are so cruel.

Seriously, i see a lot of improvement for Indian. Like one of my neighbor, for a last 15 years, at the end they renovate their house and buy a new Nissan Sentra. Why, because his sons already a doctors.
If Hindraf ideology, thay are not comparing with my neighbor's neighbor and Hindraf also will not comparing Nissan to Waja or ....
But they will ask why that YB driving Merz and they will ask why my neighbor not buying a BMW or Mercedez. This Hindraf really good in playing this issue. This is what we call racist.

Why? Because they blame the British Queen and they blame the current govt who lead by Malay(indirectly). They blame British and they blame Malay as well. Why they don't blame themself.....

My close friend, last time only a clerk, now become an executive and having beautiful life as well.

Yes, for sure there are many people who are still struggle in their life. Is it u want to blame govt.

Malay also having this type of problem. Some very success, some just success and some still struggle. But not all struggle people anti the govt because there are many reasons why they are not success and they know how to thank god. Only those people understand themself.

In Malay community, they not call themself as Hindraf, they are PKR.

Malay got UMNO and PAS and their main party to hold-to.

Indian got MIC. If MIC giving u problem, u must go inside the MIC and correct them....that is your responsibility. I know it's hard. But if u don't want to correct it, it seems like Hindraf only like an easy way or a short-cut way. They are very emotional and ask rakyat to emotional too. This is what i do not agree 100%.

Before end, Hindraf fight for us to fight each other.
Hindraf fight nothing to Malaysian Indian.
Hindraf are nothing in 1957.
Hindraf know nothing about all Malaysians....
Hindraf can't do anything if anything happen to you...

Finally Vodka te g8, i like to talk to u while u are not using all bad words.....thank u for that.

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HussienLempoyan
August 11, 2008
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Hindraf are really good. They can make Indian believe that Indian is Hindraf and Hindraf is Indian.

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songkok
August 11, 2008
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jangan la bergaduh, saudara, melainkan agama yang lain, kan kita semua manusia, cara hidup dan pegalaman kita saja
lain. jika tak buat baik tak pe jangan buat tak baik. dengar apa yang orang kata, tak dengar mana paham. paham dulu baru buat pembetulan, jika ada. kenapa nak bertekak baik cari jalan ke arah yang tulin dan benar. bidas membidas tak mendatangkan ke untungan, kenapa cari kerugian. baik sesama manusia itu adalah yang terbaik. tak payah lah beli kapal perang laut.
dengan harapan yang baik.

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HussienLempoyan
August 11, 2008
202.73.14.194
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Baiklah Cik Songkok,

Kadang2 kita ni alpa jugak, bukannya nak bergaduh. Tapi bila ada orang yang menyokong kearah yang boleh merosak keamanan negara, tak boleh lah nak sokong.

Nak explain pun diorang susah nak paham. Yang betul tetap betul dan yang tetap betul asalkan ketua mereka berjaya.

Baiklah, marilah kita berbaik-baik ya.....

TAPI, HINDRAF TETAP TIDAK IKHLAS DALAM PERJUANGANNYA.

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vodka te g8
August 11, 2008
219.93.152.21
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Attention To Hussein Lempoyan!

>yup finally i agreed with you that we have to change the ficcle MIC party and leader too.I think after this we have to fight as malaysian and not as malays,indians and chinese,Why dont we work together and develope this country as ctzens?

I think the government must make all parties such as umno,mca and mic to become under 1 party so that all the communities can work together as it is in new zealand.Why having too many parties according to communities?i think its not necessary to have separate parties such as UMNO

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vodka te g8
August 11, 2008
219.93.152.21
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anyway i get to know you well hussein lempoyan by what are u trying to say n thanks for ur explanation.

Hi guys dont mistaken me ,bcause whatever the hussein lempoyan trying to say might be true n i wish all the communities will work together to develop the nation.

We are humans guys,why should we fight each other as UMNO,MCA and MIC.

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vodka te g8
August 11, 2008
219.93.152.21
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Dear songkok!

ya ,saya setuju dengan pendapat saudara dan saya berharap agar kita berkongsi pendapat dengan cara yang terbaik selepas ini.

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mathyd_maddy
August 12, 2008
58.26.32.130
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hope the 5HINDRAF leader vl come out by D'Anwar Ibrahim as soon as.he already promise that vl bring the 5 indian leader if PKR rule the GOV.

HINDRAF

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g 8 vodka
August 13, 2008
219.93.152.23
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i hope so bro mathyd_maddy,we pray and hope for the DSAI to win and bring all of them out from ISA and we hope all BN party will get lost this year itself from ruling the country.

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inspire
August 13, 2008
202.60.56.251
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g8 vodka,,,
salute habislah bro.. u are good in facts..nice argument.. keep it up..

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inspire
August 13, 2008
202.60.56.251
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to all the malaysians...

let us read the ORIGINAL malaysia history.. our written history wrong somewhere from the beginning until now...

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g 8 vodka
August 13, 2008
219.93.152.22
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10q bro inspire.i cant even understand why this fellows is too racist and dont even giving chances to other communities as well.the malaysian universities is not even in top 200 leading universities .all the ranking of malaysian universities is above 200 where Universiti malaya is in 246 and all the other universities in malaysia is above 300 where USM is in 307 ranking , UKM is in 309in ranking and UPM is in 364 in ranking.Malaysia is bcoming worst in term of education compare to other countries.Today i saw the newspaper that the malays involved in rally by submitting the memorandum towards putrajaya bcause the selangor MB Khalid Ibrahim give an opinion that UITM should be open to all races including Bumiputra as well as non bumiputra.When the HINDRAF creates rally in 25th November 2007 ,it was harmful to country ,it was illegal in term of malaysian law because there was no police permit was given,and charged all our hindraf leaders in internal security act.But today the UITM malay students creates rally towards putrajaya without police permit is acceptable as legal and did not charged them and place them in internal security act.which type of stupid rules is these?

haa ha ha who want to study in ths type of uni where there is no ranking at all. its rubbish. luckily the university where i am studying is in to 50 in the ranking.

just have a look guys in ranking of the universities.

http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/results/2007/overall_rankings/top_400_universities/

i think the Malaysian universities will not be in the list in future because there is no equality is given in term of education and all the terms.

congratulations to AAB whom are leader of BN/UMNO. I am proud of you and samy vellu i am proud of you too because ur BN party has bring the Malaysian universities towards the worst above 200 and 300 list in university ranking. Ware Waa what a great achievement!

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pENANG Lai
August 15, 2008
202.188.139.226
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Kalau marah kepada Samu Vellu............. marah saja lah kepada dia..................... Melayu tak nak masuk campur lah. Tapi kalau menghina org2 Melayu... aku pun marah......

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Bernamakan
August 15, 2008
203.117.33.5
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hikhikhik...bodohnyeeee...

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VANI
August 16, 2008
62.150.38.153
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It is really interesting to read the debate between Hussien and vodka. To my brother Hussein and Farok please go to Trafalgar square in London and read history. It was written before Mahatir was born and you. There were 3,000,000 Indians in Malaya before 1900 and a few thousand Malays who came from east Malaysia ( Borneo) and Indonesia.In Malaysia please refer to Malaysia 1600-2004 by Katijah Moore which can be found in all book shops in Malaysia. Give me your address I will post one to you if you poor Malay cannot afford to pay. A french poet wrote he was expecting to see muslims but to his surprise Indians in china town. The early British rulers promoted malays as rajas because they were lazy to work thus receiving rolayties. Indonesian came by boat and breed like cattles thus they over took the population and claimed to be Malays. Remember Parameswara found Malacca, Sir Francis Light Penang and Stamford raffles temasik (singapore).All Malays and Indonesian were Hindus before Parameswara converted to islam. That iswhy Bali is still a hindu state ,peaceful and successful. Rember Islam is only 500 years old, so what is your ancestors religion. The arab brought Islam to Malaya, today they dont even respect the malays and Indonesians. They are treated like third class employees in the middle east.Please verify this with other malays in the middle east. If they respect malaysia it is because of Mahatir developing the country. Yes is son of an iNDIAN IMMIGRANT FROM KERELA. aSK mAHATIR TO LEAVE MALAYSIA AND TO GO HIS ORIGIN ....INDIA. Malaysia needs an INDIAN BRAIN TO RULE THE COUNTRY. ABDULLAH BADAWI HAS PROVED THAT MALAY CANNOT RULE THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!! AS YOU CLAIM..wE ARE LIVING IN 21ST CENTUARY PLEASE DO A DNA TO FIND YOUR ORIGIN.

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G 8 vodka
August 16, 2008
219.93.152.22
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10ks vani for ur comment and its interesting aswell.

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yuvann.....
August 17, 2008
118.101.97.136
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akka Vani...
appadi podunge...aruvale.satisfying xplanation.well done.
avanuke(hussien)serupale adichamatheeri.
Bravo Vani.....Regards.

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VKN
August 18, 2008
60.48.104.41
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Hussein and Farok, its really interesting to see how the both of you are in a state of believe that there are certain quarters of the non Malays in Malaysia who is happy with the treatment that they have been receiving from the UMNO led government.

Then u continue by saying that the ones who are unhappy should just go back to mainland china and India.

And from the earlier comments it is also clear that the both of u feel that this country is in a peaceful state.(its HINDRAF that is causing such turmoil to the peace in Malaysia)

ladies and gentlemen, to know whether the non Malays are really happy with the treatments they have been receiving in this country, consensus and polls should be made and the questions asked should be fair in nature, as in it should not be bias or cheekily skewed to create results that will not reflect the actual feedback, and then these results to be made public. (then again this will not happen as we have seen even from recent developments the Malays are not ready for discussions and forums that questions the discriminatory acts of their race towards those of other ethnics that live in Malaysia, oh yeah the budget for it is also too high as it is more beneficial for the corrupted BN leaders to keep the money for their personal use i.e. buying bombs to explode Mongolian women and pay off cops to cover their tracks) hussein and farok when this suggestion of mine is received and implemented then insya allah your eyes will open to see how ignorant the Malays in this country have been,
as to the arguments of asking people to go back to china, India, Indonesia or even Mongolia.... i think all of u are a little shallow on this one. lets ponder on this for a minute. If Malaysia faces an invasion by another country, don’t you think people of all races will fight back? i think the answer will be yes. and the reason to this unanimousity is simply because the rakyat today consist of mainly Malaysian born and believes that this is in fact the tanah tumpahnya darah so why the double standards?
Talking about double standards..... Don’t you think that those who sew more should reap more? Is it not a fair deal? If that is so then i think the people will reap most in this country will be the Chinese followed by the Indians then the rest. But this is exactly what the NEP is for. to put a stop to this fair deal. ok let’s just say that the NEP is indeed fair, then please by all means farok and hussein, explain to me why the orang asli's are facing so much injustice? (Socially, economically and politically) why is it even the MP's from east Malaysia are not given fair opportunity in the cabinet? Even though they were the cause of the BN not crashing out after March 8th. Now tell me how fair are the malays to the rightful owners of this bumi bertuah.

Lastly hussein you repeatedly say that HINDRAF is causing so much problems so without HINDRAF there won’t be problems. How kiddish of you to state that. i see Malaysia just like a volcano. just because its quiet it really does not mean that there won’t explode and causing a collateral damage when it does explode. the Malays have risen after 1998, but when the Indians rise for their own version for a reform call, a fraction of the size that rose in 1998, they are labeled as trouble makers, traitors, terrorists and keling pariahs. Again, double standards working for the Malays against other ethnic groups who also claim that Malaysia is their motherland.
Menuju Medan Bakti.

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rasta
August 18, 2008
60.50.251.53
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WELDONE VANI!

That was an informative lines. Good one. TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.

SENDIRI MAU INGATLAH!


That until the basic human rights are equally
Guaranteed to all, without regard to race - BOB MARLEY

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rasta
August 18, 2008
60.50.251.53
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..they dont respect & understand our religion & culture but they have expecting us to sky high to understand, respects, attention, & ext. towards their stuff!


mana ada ini macam. aiyoo..aiyoo. anbeshivam.

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Solan
August 19, 2008
118.101.95.254
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Dalam Bahasa Melayu adanya "perbandingan semacam".
Contohnya : Bodoh macam lembu.
Jika kaum melayu makan daging lembu boleh tak mereka menjadi orang Pandai ?

Pilihan Jawapan anda : Ya ( ) Tidak ( ) .

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tupac shakur @ 2pac
August 21, 2008
60.50.251.40
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BE AS MALAYSIA AGAINST THE RACISM
INSTEAD OF BEING WELKNOWN AS MALAYSIA & RACISM.



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tupac shakur @ 2pac
August 21, 2008
60.50.251.40
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..me against the RACISM CULTURE.


ONE LOVE PEOPLE!

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tupac shakur @ 2pac
August 21, 2008
60.50.251.40
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hai,,,what the
*********......they all do their own business pun dia kecoh...racist..haiaiai..dengki nak mampus..buat scrap metal dia kacau, buat paper vendor dia kecoh,,,habis semua nak sumbat kat mulut engkau jeeee..berusahalah sikit & halal!!!

asyik...asyik nak kena sumbat lagi...malulah...tembam muka..duit haram bermaharajalela.

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old man
August 24, 2008
60.50.165.222
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HusseinLempoyan,
During my younger years the Malays were a well respected, soft spoken and religious until BASTARDS like you were borned out of wedlock. Who are you to call the Indians to go back to India? Even a p*g behave better than you!

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Ulamak saudi
August 25, 2008
62.150.212.207
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To my fellow Indians, do not be overly emotional about what the Malays say about you. Use knowledge as the weapon of power. We came to Malaya as rubber tappers and coolies and look at how far we have reached. In the old days most of the doctors ,lawyers and professors were Indians. Mahatir was a good example of an immigrant Indian who ruled the country for 22yrs. Power and fatherly love for his sons corrupted him.
At least he has not killed anyone yet.
Think positive!! The second richest man in Malaysia ,Indian Dtk. Ananda.(He was once the first) Tony fernendez CEO of Air Asia. David Nicole (father Indian) world squash champion. The 2008 /2007 Miss Malaysia Indian. Australian Idol Indian Malaysian ,Malaysian Idol Indian,Tokoh guru Mr.selvamony ,Indian . Please search world billionaires there are 4 in the top 10 from India, Miss world and Miss Universe Indians.CEO of pepsi cola from tamil nadu Ms. Indra(now in USA) CEO of motorola Indian,(USA) Sunita williams longest astronaut in space still holding the record, Kalpana astronaut who died when the space shuttle crashed,Richest man in UK Lakhsmi mittal indian, Bobby jindal liousiana governer (short listed for vice president of USA republican party) Remember the Lady nuclear scientist who won the world global award for winning inovation a radiation sterilisable PVC compound for medical products beating 45 countries ,an indian Malaysian not given datin title ,not on the head lines but on page 36 Sci-Tech 3dec 2006 the star her name is Chantara Thevy Ratnam . Please aim to be like them. Study hard and migrate. You are needed to lead the world not the third world. When Indians are CEO of the superpower nation, we need to step up. What would you achieve leading Malaysia!!!! ISA,sodomy,corruption,murder, kamunting prison,rape, pedophile,vote buying,swearing on holy book,cheating, lying. Are you worth only this.? Direct your energy towards knowledge and success.

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vani
August 25, 2008
62.150.212.207
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Sorry that article was written by vani also known as "saudi ulamak"

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m'sian
August 29, 2008
118.101.6.158
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who's known as ALI BABA in malaysia. malay ? chinese ? indian ? iban ? kadazan ? etc. why they being call ali baba ?

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m'sian
August 29, 2008
118.101.6.158
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chinese ppl are from china, indian ppl are from india and the malays are from indonesia so tell me whos the ketuanan here...orang asli but still the malay claims they are ketuanan no wonder why they call ali baba

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addy
August 29, 2008
118.101.6.158
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huh??????

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din316
August 29, 2008
118.101.24.240
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Im juz sad to see some of the comments commented on indians as well as chinese here.Of coz i know d sentiments of Malays in these country coz d history shows it who were the original People here...orang ASLI!if there are no other races apart from malays, what will happen to the country?Some egoistic ppl will tell hell yeah we can survive etc but the truth is...i shall not say...I don't justify riots but im not against peaceful demos.At the end of the day, i think hentam dari belakang, saiful, altantuya etc stories reflects much about the whole scenario in our country.

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Vidur
August 29, 2008
60.54.51.68
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This Hussein and Raja Faruk is the example of betrayal genes coz of selfish and greedy ! For 50 years of spoonfed of a dumbs by fellow country men will finally think that I am the superior thats why I get to have it all and will tend to get it to head. ! But history and nature of pasts have shown the end of greed and racism is destruction ! The one who have brain knows this ! ....pity these dumbs what else u can expect from them ??

Educated Malaysian ! wake up !!! think for urself and nation !

The one with Ubi kayu and kopi O ! shut ur mouth or find a mate with ur brain capacity to talk ! Dont intefere here !

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Sharma
August 30, 2008
60.50.56.195
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Guys…Just ignore people like RF & Hussien as they really don’t portray the actual Malays out there. The have that pea brain and it’s very unfortunate that they have to put up some craps on this site. To be honest, Malays are very nice people as I’ve been staying with Malay surrounding for more then 25 years. I grew up with them and to be honest, they are very humble and easy going unlike those who are from our neighboring Indon where the Java, Banjar and other groups are very much different then the original Malays here in Malaysia. Look at Khir toyo for instance, a true Malay would have not behave like him but it’s unfortunate that we had this Indon as the MB in Selangor and its unfortunate that we have a bunch of Indon descendants out there in parliament too and what they talk are actually the true color of fanaticism (for political mileage) and these extremists are just lucky because those days we didn’t have Immigration department to control or barred them from coming in and they used this opportunity well.

My best buddy is still Malay and believe me, he has not condemned about Indians till today except for some issues (in the newspaper) that I can tell you that some of our people are not right at times. Besides that, he had been a good guy all these while and when his sister got married, he was running out of cash where I have to support him a little which I told him I’m glad to do so and not to return the cash to me as I know the difficulties he has been going through. Believe there many of those people out there and if you happen to see, the might even treat you better then your relatives and don’t be surprised with that.

Indians has a good record globally for being highly tolerant people as history has also proved this to be true. The previous President of India, APJ Abdul Kalam, two more before him, and numerous other politicians are Muslims, as are numerous sports and film celebrities within India. When Muslims first came in to Madurai, Tamil Nadu, the King accepted them with open arms and ordered his people to build a dome for a mosque by carving from a single rock as sign of friendship, willingness and tolerance. Do these guys know the number of suraus and masjids in Tamil Nadu alone and that’s the sign of tolerance that the Indians had showered them with for ages.

There are 36 Muslim MPs in Lok Sabha ( Lower house in Parliament) alone and another 25 in Rajya Sabha (Sabha ( Upper house in Parliament) and the Chairman is also a Muslim by the name of Mohammad Hamid Ansari. There are a lot more to write and that would surpass the history of our country itself by volumes if they want to talk about us. It’s a disgrace if we have to take these 2 jokers as our match as these dickheads doesn’t even know what they are talking about and therefore just ignore about these jokers as they are merely frogs under the coconut shell that comes from a background without a civilization.

Even the word bumiputra is also borrowed from us and that’s a clear sign that they don’t even f**kin had a language of their own and that’s filthy. For those who want to behave like the 2 jokers I’ve mentioned below, I think its time for you all to start reading and live your life with facts and accept it and don’t just write for the sake of writing.

Pt 1 for RF & Hussien

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