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Abdullah mahu Tan Lian Hoe buat penjelasan PDF Print E-mail
Written by Syah   
Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:24

Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi mahu Ketua Wanita Gerakan Datuk Tan Lian Hoe membuat penjelasan mengenai kenyataannya yang menyentuh sensitivi perkauman. Beliau berpendapat penjelasan itu akan dapat menghilangkan isu salah tafsir ketika beliau berucap pada majlis perasmian Persidangan Perwakilan Pemuda dan Wanita Gerakan ke-21 Jumaat lalu. "Ada baiknya diberi peluang kepada beliau untuk menerangkan sebenarnya apakah yang dimaksudkan dan biar semua kita faham dan tidak ada sebarang kekaburan mengenai apa yang dia kata itu," katanya.

Abdullah menegaskan pada ketika ini tiada siapa boleh mengambil tindakan terhadap beliau sebelum dapat mengetahui perkara sebenar. Timbalan Menteri Penerangan didakwa mempertikaikan status orang Melayu sebagai penduduk asal negara ini. –Malaysia Today

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written by HSBC , October 17, 2008
p*gi mampuslar Umno!

Lu ingat kaum lain bodohkar?

Masih ingat kes bank dulu?

Maybank?Hong Leong?MBF?Southern bank?

Umno tak mahu bagi loan!

So BUMI company beli semua..

Racist b**i UMNO

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written by re4maC , October 17, 2008
APSAL KO TAK NAK SUMBAT JERK BETINA TAN LIAN HOE TU DLM I.S.A. ??? SBB DIA ORG BN KER...??? MMG PUKI PUNYA BARISAN NASIONAL TU.... TAN LIAN HOE TU PATUT NYER ISAP BATANG PELIR AHMAD ISMAIL JERK....!!!

b**i PUNYA GERAKAN....!!! SBB TU BARISAN NASIONAL MCM KANDANG b**i............
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written by Penumpang Halal , October 17, 2008
Apa?

Hakikat sejarah pun sensitif?

Memang kita orang semua pendatang dari Afrika mah.

Ada pakar-pakar antropologi yang kata Melayu mungkin berasal dari lima unsur yang berkemungkinan:

1. Formosa (Taiwan)
2. Filipina
3. Yunnan, China.
4. Sumatra (Sri Vijaya)
5. Campa (Cambodia)

Apa salahnya kalau kita semua kaum pendatang dan penumpang?

Kan Selamat Datang ke Malaysia?

Malaysia, Truly Asia!
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written by Malaysiana , October 17, 2008
Kalau ikut fakta sejarah kedatangan pendatang ke Malaysia..

Orang Cina datang dari China.

Orang India datang dari India.

Orang Melayu datang dari Tanah Jawa (Indonesia)

Kalau tak caya p kaji betul-betul..

Jangan bangga sangat dengan faktor KETUANAN tu..

Jangan cakap kosong je kena kaji fakta yg benar dan sahih..

Tu la..dulu masa sekolah malas dah besar jadi org politik cakap takde isi...tin kosong. Fakta ni kambing aku pun tahu...
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written by kj , October 17, 2008
penjelasan?????
penjelasan apa yg engko nak si bangang?sial engkau.suruhlah si sial Ahmad Said tu bagi penjelasan dulu???Mr. PM u r son of a bitch,f**k u asehole,u n umno sucks,f**k off.tiu niama lu chau chibai,pantat lu lah sial.berambus lah lu sial.nyusahkan rakyat je.
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written by Parameswara , October 17, 2008
Hai org2 melayu. Jgnlah sikit2 sensitif. Bila u sentuh bangsa lain u pura2 org lain rasa sedap. Jgnlah bangga sgt kitorang ni melayu. Kitorang ni sama2 pendatang. Betui ckp geng2 atas tu.

Tak caye lg tanya pak lah asal dari mana? Tanya Najib najis dari mana? Tanya ahmad ismail asal dari mana? Musa Hitam, burung kakak tua @ alba, Tun Mahatir dn hampir semua kalau bkn semua pemimpin UMNO. Mereka semua keturunan pendatang. Ada yg 100% pendatangpun. Cuma beragama Islam, d gelar melayu pula tu. Sdgkan paras rupa bkn melayu.

Haa! kalau nkauorang tak tau siapa tuan kita d M'sia ni? Org Asli lah TUAN kita. Siapa rampas hak org asli kalau bukan melayu UMNO?


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written by Pak Nana , October 17, 2008
Orang Melayu memang penduduk asal di persisiran pantai seluruh nusantara Melayu dari tanah Indonesia, Campa, Tanah Melayu, Brunei hingga ke Filipina..

Kalau nak kira pendatang, seluruh umat manusia adalah pendatang. Nabi Adam pun pendatang di bumi Allah ni...

Tetapi sekarang kita cakap pasal pendatang politik. Melayu berada di Malaysia sebelum mana-mana kerajaan ditubuhkan di atas tanah Malaysia ni..

Cina dan India datang ke sini selepas orang Melayu menubuhkan kesultanan Melayu. Sebab tu lah Melayu menganggap Cina dan India tu pendatang...Memang betul pun, terima lah hakikat wahai sahabat-sahabat ku! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Steevan Sinniah , October 17, 2008
Pendatang Politik???????????????????????????????????????????????? LOL smilies/smiley.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/tongue.gif
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written by Steevan Sinniah , October 17, 2008
Truly...Cyber Bla Bla won hands down!!! Whats happening to you guys e.g Pak Nana./wawasan melayu/ or who ever it is......I have beautiful malay friends....who are very honest and sincere...Frankly speaking... non malays are/ was ok 30 yrs of funding to malays(but true facts it did not went to all malay friends but...Umno putera's(not org asli whom are geniune soil breed) ..but its this some malay's whom are fanatics who wants their rest of the life..to be fed...All we want is fairnest...Economically/educationally/religions wise....
simply put..we all pay tax equally....we all suffered the wrath during when we were "di jajah" we all ate ubi kayu..sharing with all the races(malay/chinese/indian) ...Honestly from all my non malay friends...we majority feel that malays are very beautiful ppl its justs malays dont trust us...We all were pendatang in this world la bro...
I was a BN supporter all my life ...hmmm guess we cant bring back TAR/TCL/TS back to actually brief us on what actually they got us independence...to spit on the sky? guess where it will splash on? our face? hmmm to me...its our soil...MALAYSIA...so drop all this nonsense,,,,Lets think as Malaysians..not malay..not chinese nor indian or any other minority race whom belong to this soil...correct me if i'm wrong...
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written by Pak Nana , October 17, 2008
Maharaja China sendiri menghantar wakil datang berjumpa Sultan Melaka. Anak Maharaja China sendiri berkahwin dengan Sultan Melaka. Itu Maharaja yang hebat ketika dulu pun sanggup mengiktiraf Kesultanan Melayu sebagai kerajaan berdaulat di tanah ini. Tan Lian Hoe baru jadi ketua wanita Gerakan dah nak persoal kewujudan orang Melayu di Tanah Melayu?

Berkenaan hak istimewa, waktu menjelang Merdeka dulu kaum pendatang (bukan Melayu) telah diberi pilihan samada untuk pulang ke negara asal atau memperakui perlembagaan negara dan hak-hak semua kaum yang telah dipersetujui. Hak orang Melayu adalah sedikit keistimewaan dari segi bahasa dan agama. Hak yang sangat besar telah diperolehi oleh kaum pendatang iaitu mereka diberi hak sebagai warganegara di Tanah Melayu. Orang Melayu tidak pernah persoal hak pendatang tersebut, tetapi nampaknya hak orang Melayu seringkali diungkit. Adakah perjanjian dibuat dulu harus dibatalkan? Maka masing-masing hak patut dilepaskan... bukan hanya kaum Melayu sahaja!
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written by M.C.I&lain lain , October 17, 2008
Pak Nana...
cuba kito lihat sejargoh cikit...org cina india dtg sini tlg menaikkan taraf negaroh kito......ini adalah fakto benor ....
South East Asia whose strategic sea-lane position brought trade and foreign influences that fundamentally influenced its history. Hindu India, the Islamic Middle East and Christian Europe to its west, and China and Japan to the north-east were major influences brought by shipping routes passing through the region.

Malaysian history is also intertwined with that of neighbouring Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, Brunei and Thailand. This trade and foreign cultures brought the area great wealth and diversity, but has also domination and colonialism. The history of Malaysia is one of successive phases of outside influence, followed by the mid-twentieth century establishment of independence from foreign colonial powers.

Hindu and Buddhist cultures imported from India dominated early Malaysian history.

They reached their peak in the Sumatran-based Srivijaya civilisation, whose influence extended through Sumatra, Java, the Malay Peninsula and much of Borneo from the 7th to the 14th centuries. Although Muslims had passed through Malaysia as early as the tenth century, it was not until the 14th and 15th centuries that Islam first established itself on the Malayan Peninsular.

The adoption of Islam by the fifteenth century saw the rise of number sultanates, the most prominent of which was the Melaka (Malacca).

Islamic culture has had a profound influence on the Malay people, but has also been influenced by them.

The Portuguese were the first European colonial powers to establish themselves in Malaysia, capturing Malacca in 1511, followed by the Dutch. However, it was the British, who after initially establishing bases at Jesselton, Kuching, Penang and Singapore, ultimately secured their hegemony across the territory that is now Malaysia.


The Anglo-Dutch Treaty of 1824 defined the boundaries between British Malaya and the Netherlands East Indies (which became Indonesia). A fourth phase of foreign influence was immigration of Chinese and Indian workers to meet the needs of the colonial economy created by the British in the Malay Peninsula and Borneo.[1]

Japanese invasion in World War II ended British domination in Malaysia. The subsequent occupation from 1942 to 1945 unleashed nationalism in Malaya and Borneo. If japanese Ruled Malaysia at that time till now,well imagine what the consequences to Malaysians whom seems to forget it now. World war came,world war ended.


In the Peninsula, the Malayan Communist Party took up arms against the British. A tough military response was needed to end the insurgency and bring about the establishment of an independent, multi-racial Federation of Malaya in 1957.

On 31 August 1963, the British territories in North Borneo and Singapore were granted independence and formed Malaysia with the Peninsular states on 16 September 1963.

Approximately two years later, Singapore was expelled from the Federation. A confrontation with Indonesia occurred in the early-1960s. Race riots in 1969 led to the imposition of emergency rule, and a curtailment of political life and civil liberties which has never been fully reversed.



Since 1970 the "National Front coalition" headed by United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) has governed Malaysia. Economic growth dramatically increased living standards by the 1990s. This growing prosperity helped minimise political discontent.[citation needed]

Successive UMNO-dominated governments have promoted the use of the Malay language and carried out systematic positive discrimination in favour of Muslims, measures which cause great resentment.

Well the rest is waiting to be written...

I love this country as much as All of us (Malay..Chinese..Indian...or any other minority rakyat does...

Its funny when ppl like LOKE,Cbla bla,and most of the ppl can relate to justice fairness & willingnest to accept malays as part of their life ....you guys dont//e.g A.I ,W.M& u P.N...

Pls do understand..... GOD/ALLAH/TUHAN is watching U & all of us too...the truth will prevail...If I'm wrong ...tolong maafkan hamba....maybe u ppl r right...but there isnt any race can claim that their religion belongs to a paticular race....

Sorry if i have offended any one...

I am crossing over to PKR from BN ...bukan tak der maruah diri bab rakyat pilih saya atas tiket BN but saya ada tanggung jawab terhadap rakyat...

Kalu ur agama is trying to teach u something wrong ...e.g mengutuk agama lain then trully there is something wrong dng agama saya....kalau ur gov mengutuk rakyat yg berbeze ideology hmmm fikir sendiri...

But ...jika kiter tau salah tu salah dan terus ikut jer ...hari kiamat nanti sendiri jawab lah kan?(that goes for me too)
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written by Pak Nana , October 17, 2008
M.C.I&lain lain,
Aku setuju dengan fakta sejarah ko tu. Tapi kita di sini ada give and take. Semua orang dapat faedah dari satu sama lain. So, respectla hak-hak yang telah dipersetujui bersama.

Semua bangsa boleh lebih menaikkan taraf hidup berbanding jika tinggal dalam sekelompok bangsa sahaja. Bukan Melayu saja dapat faedah dari bukan Melayu, bukan Melayu pun dapat banyak faedah dari Melayu.
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written by Pak Nana , October 17, 2008
M.C.I&lain lain said "Its funny when ppl like LOKE,Cbla bla,and most of the ppl can relate to justice fairness & willingnest to accept malays as part of their life ....you guys dont//e.g A.I ,W.M& u P.N..."

Emm..aku rasa you are one of the MP, but you seems don't understand much about us.

Melayu memang sudah lama menerima kedatangan sesiapa pun di sini. Cuma yang kita heran, segelintir daripada orang -orang yang diterima itu pulak yang persoalkan kehadiran kita di sini.

Serupa kalau aku mintak tumpang di rumah kau (sebab rumah aku kacau bilau dan tak cukup makan), tiba-tiba aku persoalkan macam mana kau boleh ada dalam rumah kau tu? Kenapa rumah kau ada bilik untuk anak-anak kau? Kenapa tak buat bilik special untuk aku?...
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written by Pak Nana , October 17, 2008
Kalau Ahmad Ismail boleh kena 3 tahun, Tan Lian Hoe ni Gerakan nak bagi berapa?
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written by M.C.I&lain lain , October 17, 2008
Ok Pak Nana..
as long u setuju dgn fakta tu,,,i fikir lebih baik kiter give & take ......lawan kiter bukan melayu cina india atau minority bangsa lain... tetapi org yg melaga lagakan kita semua...

ANDAI KATA...kita semua wujud kan perbincangan yg tulus ikhlas dan jujur menangani masalah politik tanah air kiter....kamu setuju ker ? jgn kiter jadi org melayu/cina/atau india ataupun org minority yg lain dan jadi sebagai org Malaysia yg merdeka utk sesama lawan kronisma/rasuah dll yg akan merugikan masa hadapan cucu cicit kiter...kamu sanggup ? kita ni manusia....manusia yg sangat bergantung kepada keindahan di dunia...siapa tak nak kuasa...

utk pendirian saya...MALAYS/CHINIESE/INDIAN membina negara MALAYSIA sama sama..jgn lah kiter hancurkannya hanya utk menegakkan sesuatu yg tidak akan memaafatkan sesiapa...

Saya kelahiran dari melaka...saya bangga..dng segala sejarah/kebudayaan yg diberikan oleh tanahair kiter...Guru yg mengajar masa di bangku sekolah pun org Melayu agama Islam,Cina beragama Buddhist,India beragama Hindu,dll beragama Christian/Sikh/ &banyak lagi...Tak pernah meraka mengajar/mengutuk pelajar2 lain,tak pernahmengutuk agama lain...dsbnya...

Yg kiter soal adalah tentang arah yg kiter semua di pesongkan oleh setengah2 ahli politik yg mempunyai agenda tersendiri..mengaut keuntungan sendiri,mengabaikan bangsa sendiri spt BN...

Kalau nak bincang betul2 banyak lagi tapi kita semua elakkan menggunakan kata2 yg tak senonoh...termasuk semua blogger...
ada pepatah mengatakan (entah kepunyaan bangsa siapa..tak peduli la)Kalau anjing menggigit takkan kita menggigit balik kat dia...pegi klinik utk kena inject...

ringkasan...Saya menghormati insan yg digelar manusia...tak kira bangsa ...agama..politik...or whatever the**** is ,,,kita ni menumpang jer kat bumi ni...but I Love Malaysia ..so do you Pak Nana/w.m/Loke/Nizam/Cyber bla bla/Ai/IZ/Parameswara/Penumpang Halal/HSBC/Malasiana...deep down in ur heart... I believe so kalau tak we wont be arguing about our nation...economically were are goin down & thats a fact...why cant we join recources to strenghten it. Hmmm how i wished i was back in my schooling days where MCI were rubbing shoulders & best part we knew not the differents of race ..all we thought was to study together to better help build this nation....




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written by M.C.I&lain lain , October 17, 2008
Frankly Ahmad's remark was damn terrible which started of the hold thingy...tapi is it fair to capture the reporter under ISA & d person whom kononya mempertahankan " dilepaskan macm tu jer ...Teresa Kok tak pernah terlibat pun kena masuk...
Hmmm...well Pak Nana i oredi said what i wanna say...Hmm i respect the malays.chineses.indians and other minority races...thats my point of view...I have nothing against them...but if u keep harping on certain issues ...well u told me to give & take...we were giving ,giving,giving & still giving...
As far as i know ...it does not take GOD a miliseconds to change the cause of Malaysians(inclusive of all races)....anything can happen.. just pray all of us are saved not only 1 race...for me i pray all my friends tak kisah melayu ker cina ker india ker minority lain ker atau sesiapa jer...be equally prosperous...ok see ya 2moro...mengantuk dah..thanks for this conversation...belum tentu i wake up in d morning to read ur reply....
Peace!!!
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written by Pak Nana , October 18, 2008
M.C.I&lain lain,
U said, "Frankly Ahmad's remark was damn terrible which started of the hold thingy..."

Maybe his remark was terrible, but i don't think he started the whole thing.

I was just like other cold, friendly, innocent Malay people who wants to make friends with everyone and live happily. But, when i started working (in one of the biggest government organization), i started to learn the reality of Malaysia. There were only about 30% non Malays in my organization, most of them are degree or masters holders and most of them were given scolarship by the government. They are the same or maybe worst in term working competency level. What suprised me, most of them utter the same sentiment of racist everyday especially to the juniors staff. They even questioned everything about Malays and what Malays in Malaysia have. To them, it seems like all the Malays should be staying in the jungle or kampung only. In fact, the competent level of working are almost same, no matter what race or background. But these people are trying to say that non of the Malays actually deserved high ranked position. Do you agree with them?

I never seen or heard any of them said thanks to the Malays or saying good things about our race. What they know is to condemned everything related to us. So, how you assumed that those people are accepting us to their heart?

M.C.I&lain lain,
On the other end, Malays are the one who always pleased other people and make other people feel at home.


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written by M.C.I dll , October 18, 2008
Well...i do have to agree with u even if they are non-malays whom are not competent enough they should not hold any high position....to put it simple....
Try putting urself in the non-malays shoes....working around ur mates whom are 70% malays...maybe u will try to understand their point of view....
The majority of non malays whom are competent enough are not working @ the biggest government organizations....So maybe these ppl's view are not the view of the majority of non malays...try working out on the percentage of races in gov jobs.....If you ask me...dont have the quota system...employ ppl whom can do work in the gov & not by quota... Do you agree?


I'm here merely becoz majority of us are fed up with BN/UMNO/MCA/MIC?& other componen parties....
True as what Tun said ...the votes went becoz ppl were not happy...but trust me Pak Nana...more & more ppl are leaving BN...90% of my malay friends have(of course i cant proof that to you...i can just kelentong for all u know) but whats the point) We'll wait and see...
But to grow we have to work hard & not merely depend on the Gov. coz they mostly hire their cronies/family...hmmmm

Neway I'm sorry if I've offended you /any of my non malay friends...Lets be open about this ...you say things...i say things its not gonna change anything bro...the BN GOV must change!for good or let ppl whom can perform like Muhideen Yassin make the change so ppl will start trusting BN. Or better still Let PKR run the country for 5 yrs and see...


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written by macai , October 18, 2008
please la..
outside dari gov sector lagi racis.. kalo ambil staf melayu gaji paling lowest la dia bagi... lepas tu segala kerja kena buat dari paling lowest sampai la kena buat keje bos.. aku pernah kerja dengan banyak company cina, aku tau la... segala kerja ada masalah pas kat kita, problem dah settle dia ambik balik.. nak dapat nama dari boss.. ada 1 company dari dah nak bankrup sampai aku ngan budak2 melayu nie generate sampai dapat porfit.. lepas tu masukkan kaum dia... kita org kene pinggir... bonus satu haram x dapat, kaum2 dia dapat... so ko nak kata aku racis aku x kisah... sebab aku sekarang mmg racis
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written by M.C.I dll , October 18, 2008
macai..
hak utk menjadi racist memang u punya hak... Sebab
I pilih utk sokong orang yg mulia adil dan bersaksama sesama manusia...too bad u dpt kerja dgn segelintir org macam tu...

Kalau u terror sangat mesti boss2 melayu ker cina ker india ker org asing ker pasti akan recognise dan mesti akan bersikap adil... but itu u punya experience dgn ur ex boss... smilies/tongue.gif
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written by TUN BN , October 18, 2008
HIDUP PAK LAH....
HIDUP BN
HIDUP UMNO
NAK PESAN SIKIT BAGI LA PROJEK KAT SAYA PAK LAH DAH POKAI SEKARANG NI.......YANG 20-30 JUTA PUN OK GAK...

...........KORANG JANGAN JEALOUS PASAL AKU ORANG BN,ORANG PAK LAH......KAMU APA HABUK TAHI PUN TIADA...PEDULI APA MAMPUS LA..YANG PNTING AKU KAYA...HIDUP BN HIDUP UMNO
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written by Najis Tong Lacar , October 18, 2008
Bilang kepada Pak Lah, dia punya nenek moyang, separuhnya datang dari kepulauan Hainan, Cina,

Nenek-moyang Najib asalnya Bugis dari Celebis: Sulawesi, Indonesia.

Nenek moyang Khir Toyol, Indonesia.

Nenek moyang Mahathir, Pakistan.

Nenek moyang Hussein Onn: Arabia

Nenek moyang Tun Razak: Sulawesi

Nenek moyang Tunku Abdul Rahman: ada kacukan Siam

Nenek moyang saya? Tak payah tahulah: Afrika!

Justeru, kita sama pendatang dan penumpang.
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written by re4maC , October 18, 2008
BARISAN NASIONAL PUKIMAK AYAH TUN BN......!!!! MCM PENGEMIS MINTA PROJEK KAT PAK LAH....MESTI MAK TUN BN TU DULU PENGEMIS SBB TU JADI PELACUR NAK DUIT BYK....LAST2 KENE AIDS....NAJIS....!!!
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written by sengkular , October 18, 2008
x yah lah pak lah awak nak suruh minah tu beri penjelasan.... selama awak memerintah malaysia ni pon awak da banyak nyusahkan rakyat....
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written by re4maC , October 18, 2008
UMNO PARTI BBBBAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBIIIIIIIII..............!!!!!
PEMIMPIN2 UMNO SUME PUKIMAK2 ISAP KOTE SINDRI..... ISAP JUBO b**i DEPAN KLCC.....PASTU MINTA DUIT RAKYAT PASAL GAJI TAK CUKUP.......LANCAU MAKOLENG PUNYA UMNO/BN........!!!!!!!
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written by M.C.I&lain lain , October 18, 2008
Just a small wish....what if we ask all the politicians ...both gov & opositions to debate ...we all just listen ...we can make up our mind to whom our trust will be?

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written by Din Keling , October 19, 2008
Aku ingat sebagai hukuman bagi saja nyonya ni pada Anwar, biar Anwar sondol dia punya asshole sampai lebam.

Baru dia tahu,' atuh-atuh gua punya asshole manyak sakit'
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written by adik tun bn , October 19, 2008
DIN KELING
INI GUA SOKONG AMAT2 SOKONG.......
SILA TERUSKAN PLAN KO TU
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written by LOKE , October 19, 2008
Pemimpin pun begitu, rakyat pun begitu, asyik-asyik gaduh benda yang sama aje, pendatang Melayu, pendatang Cina dan pendatang India! persoalannya kenapa isu2 ini terjadi tanda tajuk hangat sampai hari ini.

Kerana kaum2 lain tidak mendapat hak2 yang sama, kenapa kaum lain pertikaikannya, kerana kerajaan BN bertindak tak adil, bila di bawa berbincang maka ramai yang kata kontrak sosial, apa ni??? kekebalan raja dapat di hapuskan, apakah ini, mulut cakap mahu Malaysia maju, tetapi hati tak iklas.

Anak Malaysia fikirkan lah.

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